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ironically in washington debate dissented not so much on the power of its parliament or its executive this week's us inspector general report has put a spotlight on power being concentrated in the so-called deep state joining me now is someone who is fifty donald trump's men in the european union professor ted malik is the author of the plot to destroy trump how the deep state fabricated the russian dossier to subvert the president thanks for coming back on i know you do want to talk so much about being detained in the airports over the book about julian assange and the ecuadorian embassy do you believe you and others are being targeted for your allegiance to a sitting u.s. president well i think all the trump supporters. have a big red target painted on their back so the we don't carry great favor either with the media or with the deep state yeah i think many people would agree with you when you're when you talk about the media getting support is
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good liberals hate jump. who else who will says well there are never trampers as well in the republican party who have not gone away as well as some of the what i called them the geo e the grand old establishment and they're still i mean this about what's going on i think trump has taken over the american political scene surely as president he's running the republican party but he has enemies and there are midterm elections coming up and there are people who are always trying to sabotage what he's doing so he has an uphill push and he still succeeding well i want to get on to some of that success in career in a moment that's just turn your book the other way as it were in the appendices you mentioned you're reproduce the d i a defense intelligence agency document which this show is involved in what did you think of it when it was produced about the reasons for twelve if you know in writing this book which i wrote about six months ago i started really wanted to put together this big jigsaw puzzle which has over
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a thousand pieces and you know the every day person could be rather. confused by it all lots of names lots of movements lots about some are some russia but you know russia collusion collusion collusion but i wanted to put it all together and into a puzzle and make it readable so hopefully the book is readable some people have called it a kind of dan brown page burner so i've written it in the style that i don't always write and a little glee so it's written in a way that people this is no academic to me but it does contain all the i mean as well but read it you know i think everyone has read it now as well but at the end of the book we also wanted to put on these documents that again are referred to in the press all the time some of them coming from the intelligence assessments some of the letters from the committees in congress but also this is a very curious i think very dubious and verified thirty five page dossier. from
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christopher steele it's referred to all the time i think it's the centerpiece of this whole control that is media it is you just cost out the whole provenance of this report even though all that let's let's be clear the clear about it is it is paid for by opposition research by an opposition research firm called fusion g.p.s. that is funded by the democratic national committee and by the hillary clinton campaign and it's used as dirt on trump it's all invented stuff it's not verified in the least and the sourcing is not even clear so is it if it is that intelligence no it's not intelligence do intelligent people taken seriously unfortunately some people do and they shouldn't to be fair the f.b.i. cut off their relations with this m i six men feel after talking to yahoo news tell me also about this research that you seem to tell me i hadn't come across it before and about russia's nuclear agency and the canadian company your ring him one with
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mining interests in all this uranium one scandal is of course at the core take it as an aria. there's a canadian think goes to who becomes involved with the uranium market and is able to put this merger together of companies to control certain uranium interest sense of. buying in in you know uranium firm in the u.s. selling those interests to this firm in eurasia and what's not going to do with trump it's very interesting because it gets very large profits in this deal and it's so interesting that he is the largest donor to the clinton foundation over hundred million dollars personally. and is this just a coincidence read the book and see i think it's the real rush occlusion story is this russian delusion story or the words that there were. games that the clintons are going to make one hundred forty five million dollars in their foundation james
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clapper doesn't come off very well in your book you well i think he's being roundly criticized now for what he is a leaker and a liar so he is along with the former cia head the very. dubious. john brennan i think actually at the core of what i would call this trump russia conspiracy this was invented in the united states professor. steven cohen at princeton university calls it intel gate i call it the red november conspiracy this is something that was conspire to in fact between fusion g.p.s. and the cia we love james clavell to come on the show of course but then you see patterns here for previous times where intelligence is used in ways to persuade what is interesting because clapper was in fact the person who brought us the other
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question will story in recent history about the infamous. w m d in iraq so i call it deja vu all over again here he is delivering a message in this sequence if some of us may think we're exaggerating this power of the so-called deep state i mean we see your alive and present to live how powerful that i know you try to strike some kind of optimistic note in the i don't use the term project or to vilify think just from a social science perspective there is such a thing as a deep state they have enormous power they are on elected bureaucrats and in the case of certain departments certain bureaus they have power that would actually shock most americans and most people i think the same existence of the deep state you know is present in the u.k. is present in the european democracies and is ever present in the european union
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which i've been critical of the us debt is no u.s. ambassador to the right now do you see as as of what i'm hopeful that the state department is vetting some candidates because it would be beneficial i think to have american representation in brussels particularly because it's such a protectionist regime and that should be exposed job it out but is a view of the brics in negotiations do you. studying to think that the deep state is basically winning this battle in the votes of the people. will be concerned about democracy in that sense. we you know brits should not have to vote three four times to get their bricks and outcome they voted once it was a term of vote and in my view it should have been executed if not immediately within a year it shouldn't be something that's the go see it at this stage i would have it the civil service is obviously trying to overturn it and tried to make all kinds of
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roadblocks and to make it very difficult and to to complicate the. process how shocked have you been. about the response to the unprecedented historic meeting in singapore between you know president and kim jong il well i'm actually. a bit stupefied because i think it's rather stunning that the president could of with the help of the south koreans and the help of the chinese and the su perle it of efforts of his new secretary of state mike pompei who's test is going to be now to actually work all the details on this agreement that he's been able to pull this off and the american will no one is quite supportive but the american media sounds like they'd rather have a thermonuclear war with thirty thirty million people dead than peace in the korean
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peninsula thank you would be with after the break we look at some of the week's top stories with one of prime minister to raise amaze former home office ministers and go to sanaa to see how you carry arms exports to saudi arabia contribute to what the u.n. calls the world's worst humanitarian crisis all this of all coming up but you are going on the ground. and. oh my i'm going to the state of iowa tonight i don't. even know if they can.
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the kind of. move on which i've written on the show about the movies because of what i'm listening to who are going to be out in show who are so soft and i must. not so much but they will suffice cause it is a cause of if he was a sidekick cuff among the others. whether they had to as he should go to one of them for something beyond what because. the bus was. just me my one telling me i was me and nothing. but the same.
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one i was was a. double helping move me. to school i'm. only in the studio john boehner put him in jail that instead of me to watch musical blood coming to school in the.
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winter with him and oh is that. and i've known you moved can you hear michel i. him and i should clear to most him. welcome back to go through some of this week's headlines now i'm joined by recording artist and former u.k. home office minister norman baker norbit thanks for coming on the show away from all the politics of the world cup tournament very interesting matches i think of the past two days particularly surprising some of the results well they're always surprising results in football but i have to confess there's a cricket fan i would be more encouraged by the five to scotland beating been recently but i think the world is not want to increase their ike i can see that ok to more serious things now let's go straight to called when space woke up in space in the headline here andrew smith is time to sing class to those council sponsored arms for this is the view of the campaign against the arms trade and his argument the new such a bench be taking place at all in glasgow i think is
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a bit over the top to be honest with you and you have to ask yourself why it is that so many british arms have ended up for example blowing people in the yemen i've got a good idea why the arms may be involved in the bombing of the data port this week because when you were in government in the ways i'm a as a secretary being sold to the saudis being used in the area for training their pilots if i was having unlimited autocratic powers donald trump or blogger putin perhaps i could have stopped that but my remit was a narrow one in the home office and before that the part of transport but i mean i was in saudi arabia myself and even the crown prince said to me at the time you know why is it you're british you're always trying to sell arms why don't you try and help us with other matters and they were busy buying some. equipment i think from the french at the time so yes we do over stress arms sales in this country of course that makes as reluctant to criticize governments when they behave in a way that we regard as distasteful as well that's going to the next story which
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has been dominating home affairs in this country there's a march to downing street about grenville this evening yes look at the good old guardian farther up in london last year this was on the day of course when. people marking one year on from gradual tower blocks one year after grenfell and of course not because i'm still able didn't know they did die this time fortunately but nevertheless it's a very sensitive matter when you have fallen top locks and the issue really is whether or not enough has been done or you're wrong to recognise a potential problems in far in tower blocks this one on one of the two from south london yet either you miles from never close heads or even which are here and of course what is abolishing going on in the moment but that had a sprinkler system and people therefore were able to to have some reassurance that if i was going to be can believe repeatedly heard from people with the government it's because i'm not necessary although i think i need to be there to be honest with you some or both of the alarms going off on this indeed on that gavin barwell who is a maze of stuff will be good vi's was the housing minister accused of sitting on
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the on a previous inquiry into a fire his famous footage from the river murdoch sky. attempts to try to get him to be just rushing off and not speaking about it well i think it's pretty shameful to be honest with you to people should face up to the positions they've taken to defend them and if you can reason for the action he took he should explain himself well let's go to the biggest issue of this country arguably of the continent this is from the huffington post boris johnson lobstering recalled and box to reason may over tory breaks its divisions and this is from private discussions on wednesday when jeremy called on who's getting better at promises questions on the news to be suggested that in a light hearted fashion no doubt the donald trump might be a better negotiator than three's a mate because that's what boris johnson said in a private meeting which is an elite i'm sure boris was perfectly happy to sleep on was smiling yes he was smiling about promises questions but the real problem for britain is not really the internal machinations of the tory party except that those and those in the labor party as well are affecting negotiations with the e.u.
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and both parties both major parties are kicking the can down the road so far but the road today didn't run out very shortly or we might get exactly what the liberal democrat party one day anyway which is. the overturning of the record really resonate with you because the servants don't want a course at the polls and they say it's a total disaster and every single option on the table even the best option is worse than we have at the moment jacoby was definitely joking when he when he said something like to resume should offer to europe as a budget because if he was as you probably did when you read he was joking but actually we got to sort out the internal problems of the labor party the tory party both in it for internal reasons are going way down the road the losing patience and running out of time ok if the big trade wars and trade deals in the future a big issue let's go to your next story about a big issue here of social care which arguably last raised them a majority at the last election well indeed this is from the woods of the dixon paper tory m.p. david davies suggests the n.h.s. shouldn't fund life extending drugs for the elderly now this is
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a of loads wouldn't it if you really all just died with no medicine no doubt it would and of course this is hypocritical because you do exactly the opposite position what he was criticised in the welsh government which is labor run about three or four years earlier so i think people get fed up with hypocrisy and politics that are pretty outrageous well i mean yes outrageous in the sense you can't just switch machines off in the people die i know drugs of a different guy goes according to yes indeed and indeed as former drug illegal drugs well illegal drugs illegal drugs minister we are illegal as well illegal in this country but not illegal elsewhere and the fact of the matter is it is a very strong case for kind of being used for medicinal purposes as it has in many countries concerned an epileptic disloyal b.s.p. when the mother with the medicine all of that kind of the elite of souls to bring in the country because that's what he needs and i know plenty of people from my experience of drugs minister who rely on kind of this to do with the medical conditions when nothing else works why don't you do anything when you well i was i did i probably should first independent report on drugs for forty three years when
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i was talking minister and i was so cold cold for medicinal kind of strange legal i was already saying david cameron think if i got some support and jeremy hunt is about to pass a time when he was. it was a new sort of rhetoric the government's position is they should remain illegal. and now we're going to go straight to yemen where the government arms sales we just mentioned according to un report are having a catastrophic effect joining me now from the country's capital sanaa is journalist hussain of the country are saying welcome back to going on the ground we just talked to the british foreign office they've told us that britain is indeed involved in the targeting of aerial bombardment of yemen what's your understanding of the latest fighting in yemen's main port city of today are the saudis the coalition the united arab emirate we believe that they have got a green light from. the united states and from the u.k.
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to advance toward the day and if you see them up. among course to the advanced they just advanced in there in the coast. of yemen they only control about five to ten kilometers of the coast because they just want to reach a day that they want to put her data port back on the mob and i think they know that what they do is so vital for the humanitarian aid getting into yemen so they want to bring it back into them up to half pressure. the hoti and yemeni army loyal to them to withdraw from this city and its ports and this is actually show you clearly how that coalition backed by u.k. and united states is actually using the humanitarian. aid and the last line for the millions of yemeni using it as a weapon to tell the host the other side to control the port either you withdraw
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all we can just attack the city and you are you going to be responsible for the death and for the destruction of what's left of our data but actually is not the host the who. who obstructed they when it had an edge coming into yemen we remember that and the fittest weeks of the saudi led coalition were in yemen they have targeted or they deport destroying their main claim so the port can only receive now small ships and with this maybe a new offensive if it started it will actually close the entire port bringing this in the media just because the saudis that coalition they don't want to be blamed for the death toll that might be caused by this data the circled foreign minister over have encouraged money saying that saudi arabia is not planning to destroy infrastructure the saudi foreign minister. more larry saying that yemen guarantees have been allowed safe passage from the data before any bombing so complete denials
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from the coalition no i mean how can you be guarantee a safe passage if the only passes for eighty percent according to the united nation for eighty percent of the humanitarian aid getting into yemen is from port eighty percent means that the whole the are not abstract in this border this statement by some yemeni officials in saudi arabia they just want to kind of say that we do care about the humanitarian aid and we have plans like if it's not if it doesn't work and if the port is destroyed and if the city is destroyed as well then the blame all the blame will be put on the whole movement british regime media calling them indeed the yemeni government but as you say there in yemen when you talk to people in the capital that we can see behind you have seen a dearth are they aware that britain opposed to a swedish resolution of the u.n.
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security council this week that mandated some sort of cease fire. i mean a yemeni look to the united nation and especially to the u.n. security council as a tool for western power and now is a tool for the saudi led coalition they not only call in for a ceasefire as i heard in some media outlet that sweden. to the u.n. security council has asked for a halt in all operation of a data port and as he said and added so to give time for the rebel to withdraw from the data on the show you how this. u.n. security council is just used to attack the one who is actually defending the city they should actually make a solution to ask the saudi not to attack the port and to attack are they the city and i will just make it clear that the whole yemeni army loyal to them will not
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withdraw and they will fight to death what will guarantee if they withdraw from the data port and if the united nation take over what will guarantee that they are not gonna stop the saudi from season this key city after what we as yemeni here in sanaa we always talk about the united nation rule in international conflict and as an example we remember in one thousand nine hundred eighty two in lebanon in sabra and shatila comes to me and comes in south lebanon when liberal was invaded then the united nation and the u.s. has asked the syrian fighter induced to comes to withdraw and they took them spread them in many other country but soon after the israeli army and some militia loyal to them has entered this camp who was under the protection of un killing five thousand and we remember as well said bin each and bosnia and when the dutch this force haven't done anything to protect that village in bosnia in one thousand nine
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hundred five we remember as well one of the one final example and iraq before the invasion when the united nations. asked saddam to destroy and hunt. ballastic a missile just soon after saddam destroyed. by the new and have destroyed saddam's last ballastic missile what have been the iraq invasion has had been. hundreds of thousands of people has been killed because of that and we can see now how iraq is going into chaos now this is the same thing they want to do to her data it has been done in aden when and the whole thing with growth from there what have been al-qaeda dara's is running free militia no security yemeni so-called government area i mean hasn't come back to aden for for many many months if not years only two days ago because they just want to be in eight celebration after ramadan and they're like they did last year and they had before but after that they will just leave aden and i believe if the united nation care about them any they
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should ask the saudi to stop the aggression on the how they drop out they should as well ask the saudi as a part in this world not only the yemeni government don't call this war in yemen as a civil war or as an inside conflict because to do so this means that you are keeping the saudi but in hiding and the saudi should be put directly and this should be told between houthi answer the un so-called yemeni government and if they do that i think that the yemeni. solution out of peace and yemen will be will be reached soon i began by saying that the british foreign office has told this program it is helping the targeting of yemen what about the targeting and i should say the saudi arabian government obviously deny any attempts at killing civilians they deny they're hitting infrastructure u.n. security council deny such allegations united nations officials also deny such allegations of the they're saying it's the world's worst humanitarian crisis what
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about getting possible talking reports of possible to. of dubai and of abu dhabi in the united arab emirates in the coming days i think. president of the high council president or some other was who was assassinated they believe in nineteen of april this year he has said that they will be the final battle if they do attack. we will take a measure that we cannot go back from so this show that i am sure that dubai abu dhabi and even though the. saudi oil fields will be one of the main target if they actually get what they are trying to enter data and that's why he said. we will do things that we cannot return and that will actually . save you toward the war on yemen and the saudi al we're well aware of that
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that's why they try to have pressure used in the united kingdom and the united states and france to have pressure on the u.n. security council to ask the holy to withdraw so they can go into the city without any fight training overcrowding thank you and that's it for the show we're back on monday with award winning scientist to investigate the significance of humans appearing in four seconds to midnight if history is reduced to a single day children to the touch of us plan social media will see over the twenty one years to the day of the death of legendary muckraking journalist and author still. lateral and a line against robbery and what happens prices are artificially pumped up and
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jacked up and some people can't afford. you know the way to fix the housing problem in the u.k. is it take away this fractional reserve banking as property so that prices would come down to the level that is traditionally affordable by the average person in french. elliston is getting international recognition with the help of israel at least in the world of zoos remember wolf it was dismissive to do it like you know that this isn't my cup of tea is going i know phil saviano maybe you know john you know about a tough job or they should be the only palestinians who gets the most help from his jerusalem counterparts i don't think there's some of those who in there were under the oak vision didn't know when to go get it. and that's the sell off at that age to have this lady of the muscle that you had i not going to compete in the doesn't
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seem to do more almost lost but results. i've been saying the numbers mean something they matter the u.s. has over one trillion dollars in debt more than ten white collar crimes happen each dish. eighty five percent of global wealth you longs to be ultra rich eight point six percent market saw a thirty percent rise last year some with four hundred to five hundred trees per circuit first second and bitcoin rose to twenty thousand dollars. china is building a two point one billion dollar a i industrial park but don't let the numbers overwhelm. the only numbers you need to remember is one one does not show you can afford to miss the one and only.
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act. day three of the world cup draws to a close and with four games it's the busiest of the tournament with lots to talk about and doing the talking for. the great dane. boys from iceland since they were babies they were eating. on breakfast. it's a big day for the michael family. you know to have a son playing in the world cup. and in the days matches iceland brought third. moscow in their first ever world cup game the team secures a shock draw with heavyweights argentina.

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